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Back in the mid-’90s, I read an article that said golfers were not getting better, despite the advances in equipment design, instruction, and course condition. Well, that data has either been wrong all along or has changed dramatically over the last 25 years. Recent studies answer the age-old question, “Are golfers finally improving?” Thanks to Mike Stachura of Golf Digest for providing this significant insight!
Golfers are better than they were 25 years ago.
It’s not just theory, it’s fact. Forgetting for a moment who among you is sandbagging and who’s toting around a vanity handicap, the data on handicaps from the US Golf Association makes one thing clear: Golfers not only are getting better, they may be getting better at their sport than any other group of athletes are getting at theirs.
This bold statement isn’t originally mine. I was having an email exchange with former USGA Senior Technical Director Dick Rugge, when listening to the recent Hot List podcast. When there was a suggestion that golfers really haven’t improved despite all the advances in technology. Rugge, who often talked about the subject of handicap trends during his tenure at the USGA, told me about some handicap data that suggested just the opposite.
A quick call to the USGA confirmed that very fact. In the last 25 years, the average USGA handicap for a man has improved nearly two full strokes, from 16.3 to 14.4. For women, the improvement is no less impressive, dropping from 29.7 in 1991 to 26.1 in 2016.
Access to great golf courses has helped bring more golfers into the game.
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Every sports team and player has had to endure “The Curse” at some time or another. The Boston Red Socks come to mind with the “Babe Ruth Curse” and, of course, the ever-lovable Chicago Cubs, who finally broke the curse in 2016. However, another drought ended in Chicago just a couple of weeks later when the Irish Rugby team beat the New Zealand All Blacks for the first time EVER. 109 years to be exact! So is “the curse” a legitimate thing, and who imposes the curse? Alex Myers of Golf Digest gives us the top 11 players on the PGA and LPGA Tours who still have to beat their particular curse.
Is “The Curse” in sports a legitimate entity?
With the Chicago Cubs finally winning their first World Series title in 108 years, a look at some of the most dramatic droughts in golf history.
2006 at Winged Foot!
1. Phil Mickelson at the U.S. Open
Mickelson has accomplished so much during his career, but the tournament he covets most still eludes him. Making matters worse is how many times he’s come painfully close to winning the U.S. Open — a record SIX runner-ups, to be exact. Of course, none was more heartbreaking than the 2006 event at Winged Foot in which Mickelson seemed poised to win the national championship for the first time — and a third consecutive major overall — until a disastrous double bogey on the final hole. “I’m such an idiot,” Mickelson said after. Or maybe you’re just up against forces too powerful to overcome. . .
1939 US Open at Philadelphia CC.
2. Sam Snead at the U.S. Open
Before there was Mickelson, there was Snead, another legendary player only missing the U.S. Open in his pursuit of the career Grand Slam. Snead’s four runner-ups in the event was the record before Mickelson came along and he did one better than Phil when it came to calamitous final holes. Needing a par to win the 1939 U.S. Open (Snead said a fan told him he needed to make birdie), Snead made a triple bogey on the par-5 18th at Philadelphia Country Club. Eight years later, Snead three-putted from 15 feet on the final hole of a playoff to lose again.
1977 US Open
3. Nancy Lopez at the U.S. Women’s Open
Lopez’s brilliant career included 48 LPGA Tour titles and three majors, but she also finished with seven runner-ups in majors, including four at the U.S. Women’s Open. Her last chance came in 1997 when she became the first golfer to shoot in the 60s in all four rounds at the event — and she still lost to Alison Nicholas. “You know, all the tournaments I finished second in, I never really had an emotional feeling for second other than that U.S. Open,” Lopez told ESPN in 2015. “I really struggled to get over that. It took me quite a while.”
2015 Open Championship at St. Andrews.
4. The Calendar Grand Slam
Bobby Jones is in the record books for winning what constituted the calendar Grand Slam in 1930, but to this day, no one has ever won all four of golf’s professional majors in one year. Tiger Woods is the only golfer to win four straight, but his accomplishment, dubbed the “Tiger Slam” overlapped the 2000 and 2001 seasons. Ben Hogan is the only player other than Woods to win three majors in one year, winning all three that he entered in 1953. Jordan Spieth is the most recent player to have a chance. After winning the 2015 Masters and U.S. Open, Spieth lost by one shot at the British Open at St. Andrews. He came back to finish runner-up at the PGA Championship. Anyone pulling off this accomplishment is going to need fate on their side.
Another missed opportunity at Augusta National!
5.Greg Norman at the Masters
You can make a case that Greg Norman was cursed at every major except for the Open Championship, the only one of the four he ever won. However, if there was a particular house of horrors for the Shark during his career, it was Augusta National. Norman lost in unthinkable fashion in 1987 when Larry Mize holed out a 50-yard pitch shot on the second hole of a sudden-death playoff. Nine years later, Norman gave away the green jacket in a much slower fashion, shooting a final-round 78 to blow a six-shot lead to Nick Faldo. We feel for you, Greg.
Naming the greatest achievements in the history of golf!
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As T.J. Auclair of PGA.com mentions in his opening statement, this was an impossible task. Whatever he chooses and in what order will always bring the critics. “You left out so and so” “So and so should have been ahead of so and so.” But he did it, and in my humble opinion, did a great job. As a golf professional for over 50 years, I found this article on golf’s greatest achievements a compelling read. Thanks!
Naming the greatest achievements in the history of golf!
I’ve been tasked with the impossible: Ranking golf’s 9 greatest achievements, in order. How do you even do that?
Who is this schmuck to decide which is better than the other when just about any one of us would dine on a haggis-only diet every day for the rest of our lives to have accomplished just one of them?
With the realization that ranking these achievements in an order all of us could agree on, is nearly as difficult as reaching just one of the feats that follow. As I run to take cover, here goes nothing…
9. Jim Furyk’s 12-under 58.
OK. If I’m being honest, it felt dirty putting the number “9” in front of this entry. One, because Furyk is the only player in PGA Tour history to accomplish such a feat. Two, before shooting that number this past Sunday at TPC River Highlands (a par 70) in the final round of the 2016 Travelers Championship, he was the last player on Tour to shoot a 59. He did that on On September 13, 2013, at Conway Farms (12 under since the course was a par 71) in the second round of the BMW Championship. So why is this just No. 9 even though it’s something that had never happened before on the PGA Tour? I guess the only logical explanation is because it’s so new.
8. Jack Nicklaus’ 19 runner-up finishes in the majors.
Some may argue that this isn’t necessarily an “achievement” since it didn’t result in victory. I’d argue that there’s an exception to every rule and this is one of them because of the man we’re talking about. Nicklaus — the winningest major champion of all time (more on that later) — also has more runner-up finishes than any player in the game’s history. That’s almost unfathomable. As ridiculous as this sounds — and no less than 2016 U.S. Ryder Cup Captain Davis Love III pointed out recently — Nicklaus could be considered the most snake-bitten golfer of all time based on that stat. The next-most runner-up finishes in majors? That would be 11 by Phil Mickelson. Back to Nicklaus — 18 major championship wins and 19 times a runner up. Think about that.
7- Oldest to win a PGA Tour event, the 1965 Greater Greensboro Open, at 52 years, 10 months and 8 days.
– By winning the 1960 De Soto Open Invitational, Snead became the first player to win PGA Tour titles in four different decades (since matched by Raymond Floyd).
– Oldest player to make the cut at a major: age 67 years, 2 months, 7 days at the 1979 PGA Championship.
– First PGA Tour player to shoot his age with a 67 in the second round of the 1979 Quad Cities Open.
– Oldest player to make a cut on the PGA Tour: age 67 years, 2 months, 21 days at the 1979 Manufacturers Hanover Westchester Classic.
– Only player to post a top-10 finish in at least one major championship in five different decades.
6. Francis Ouimet wins the 1913 U.S. Open at The Country Club in Brookline, Mass.
This wasn’t just an amazing singular accomplishment. It was also the reason for a golf boom in the United States. When Ouimet won the national championship as a 20-year-old amateur (on his home course, no less), he became the “father of amateur golf” in the United States by taking down the likes of famous, accomplished professionals Harry Vardon and Ted Ray. When you think of American golf legends, you think of names like Jones, Nelson, Hogan, Nicklaus, Palmer, Woods. Keep in mind, Ouimet was the first “hero” in American golf.
How Augusta National Almost hosted Olympic Golf in 1996!
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Here is a fascinating story of how August National almost hosted Golf for the 1996 Olympic Games. But even the might of Payne Stewart and Billy Payne could not overcome one woman’s objection. Find out what that was. Thanks to Sam Weinman of Golf Digest for this breaking story!
Rio Olympics.
If you’ve been at all following golf’s inclusion in the Rio Olympics, you likely know that the sport has returned after a 112-year absence. What you might not know, however, is how golf almost returned two decades ago. Or that the potential course was not some hastily constructed new layout, but the most celebrated venue in golf.
A brief refresher: After succeeding in bringing the 1996 Olympics to Atlanta, Billy Payne, then the head of the Atlanta Games organizing committee, turned his attention to making golf an Olympic sport. Better yet, he got then Augusta National chairman Jackson Stephens (at this point, Payne, now Augusta National’s chairman, was not even a club member) to agree that Augusta National should be the host venue. Payne’s promise of delivering both the best players in the world and the storied venue was enough to persuade International Olympic Committee president Juan Antonio Samaranch to get on board with the idea as well.
Arnold Palmer hitting the opening tee shot at the 2015 Masters.
In October 1992, Payne and Stephens held an outdoor announcement at Augusta National, where, according to a follow-up story in Golf Digest, “Augusta National gave trinkets adorned with the familiar Augusta National logo, but featuring the five Olympic rings inside the Augusta flag.”
Entertaining stories about Phil “The Thrill” Mickelson.
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Phil Mickelson loves to gamble. You just have to watch him play to know that! So it comes as no surprise that he likes to gamble at golf, table tennis, or even trick shots on the golf course. Read the entire article by Alex Myers of Golf Digest to learn about the amazing shot Phil “The Thrill” Mickelson played to collect all the cash!
We’ve heard some great golf gambling stories involving Phil Mickelson through the years. There’s the time he schooled Paul Azinger. The time he tricked Nick Watney into paying off a wager in pounds instead of dollars. Even the time he bet a fan (and lost) he could get up and down from a particularly bad lie.
But this one, courtesy of Golf Magazine’s terrific oral history of “Tin Cup,”takes the cake. It occurred during the filming of the movie, which turns 20 August 16. Here’s Cheech Marin, who played Kevin Costner’s caddie in the classic golf flick, describing what happened:
Are Republicans and Democrats as split on the golf course?
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It seems that if the Republicans come up with a good idea, the Democrats will immediately respond with negative criticism. The same is true for the Republicans when the Democrats come up with something special. But what about the average golfer who is either a Republican or a Democrat? Is their thinking and behavior on the course different from one another? Sam Weinman of Golf Digest brings us an interesting study on the subject done by Chadly Stern, Ph.D., an assistant professor of psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. An interesting read!
We like to think of the golf course as a safe haven from political bickering. Sure, you might touch on the economy during a wait on the tee box, but golf itself is politically agnostic. Your weekend foursome could include people with completely different ideologies than your own and it should have no bearing on how you enjoy the game together.
Sounds great. But is that really true?
To understand how one’s political views might shape them as golfers, we conducted a survey of more than 1,000 regular players asking about a variety of topics relevant in the game — whether they walk or ride, whether they play golf for money, that sort of thing. We only asked one directly political question — whether the respondent was a Democrat or a Republican — but from that, were able to see contrasts in how members of the opposing parties answered the other questions.
“AMONG CONSERVATIVES THERE’S A TENDENCY TO GRAVITATE TOWARD NORMS AND RULES, BECAUSE RULES PRESENT STRUCTURE,” STERN SAID. “ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THAT TRUMP SAYS AMERICA IS IN CHAOS AND THERE’S A LOT OF VIOLENCE AND INSTABILITY AND HE’S GOING TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AND SAFE AGAIN THROUGH THE ENFORCEMENT OF RULES.”
In fact, what the survey underscored is how often one’s political leanings can be manifested in a golf setting (we’re not talking about whether you’re chronic miss is to the left or the right). And when you map the survey answers against generally acknowledged differences between the two parties, the results start to follow a trend.
“It’s a super interesting set of findings,” said Chadly Stern, Ph.D., an assistant professor of psychology at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign who has studied and written about how one’s political ideology shapes the way they see the world. “It’s very consistent with what we know about the psychological differences between liberals and conservatives, or Democrats and Republicans.”
We should start with an important reminder.
That this was a survey of mostly avid golfers, a relatively homogenous group compared to, say, people who like music. And on some topics golfers were aligned regardless of how they voted. But most interesting is where the two parties diverge. For instance, Professor Stern was intrigued by Republicans being more inclined to follow the Rules of Golf to the letter. In his eyes, it was reflective of a conservative inclination toward structure. Taking it a step further, he could even explain why people who follow golf rules more closely would also be drawn to the candidacy of Donald Trump.
“Among conservatives there’s a tendency to gravitate toward norms and rules, because rules present structure,” Stern said. “One of the things that people have been talking about is that Trump says America is in chaos and there’s a lot of violence and instability and he’s going to make America great and safe again through the enforcement of rules.”
A conservative partiality toward following rules and norms also explains other contrasts. Democrats had less of a problem with golfers smoking marijuana on the golf course, and while mostly opposed to golfers wearing jeans on the golf course, they were more open than their counterparts across the aisle. The gap was even wider on whether denim should be permissible in a golf clubhouse.
Things you may not know about Henrik “The Ice Man” Stenson.
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His nickname is not “The Ice Man” for nothing! On Sunday afternoon, he lived up to that reputation as he methodically took Royal Troon apart and finally brought the course to its knees! After a sly smile at Phil Mickelson early in the round as Phil almost holed out from off the green, he was all business and knew he had a hard task ahead. He became a golfing machine and put on a ball-striking display never before seen in a Major Championship! Thanks to Joel Beall of Golf Digest for bringing us information on Henrik we otherwise would not have known!
1. His Sunday round at Troon tied major championship records
Stenson carded 10 birdies and two bogeys for an eight-under 63, becoming the 27th player to post that figure in a major, and just the second to shoot 63 on the final day to win a major. His four-day 20-under total tied Jason Day’s 2015 mark at Whistling Straits for the lowest major score.
2. He lost $7 million in a Ponzi scheme
The scam’s mastermind, Allen Stanford, was later convicted of fraud and sentenced to 110 years in prison.
3. His wife, Emma, was a college golfer
Emma Lofgren was a member of the University of South Carolina’s women’s team. Stenson worked out with the USC men’s golf team thanks to his relationship with coach Puggy Blackmon, and the two became close. Like Henrik, Emma hails from Sweden.
4. He didn’t start playing golf until age 12
He became hooked when a friend took him to the driving range. His love for hitting balls earned him the nickname “En Till Hink” (One More Bucket). By 18 years old, he was a scratch golfer.
5. He will represent Sweden in the 2016 Olympics
Better yet, in response to many of golf’s top stars dropping out of the Rio games due to Zika, Stenson remarked, “I’m not afraid of mosquitoes. I’m more afraid of bears.”
The Top Ten Wine producing Professional Golfers!Golf Chats is a website to encourage discussions on various subjects relating to the game of golf. I am Mel Sole, Director of Instruction of the Mel Sole Golf School and SAPGA Master Professional. I invite you to enter into a discussion on this or any article on the golfchats.com website. The input is for the entire subscriber base to learn something new each time! Please post your comments below. Keep it clean and tasteful. We are here to learn from one another!
Golf and wine are my two favorite passions.
Some professional golfers have aligned themselves with top wineries to produce wines under their own names. Some, like David Frost, have their own wineries and work the land themselves when they are not on tour. Master Sommelier Randall Bertao, in conjunction with Golf Week, gives us his selection of the Top 10 wine-producing professional golfers. I would like to see a Monday tournament in which all wine-producing golf professionals tee it up, and the first prize is a case of wine from each producer. Now that would be a fun tournament! What about it, Tim Finchem?
Master Sommelier Randall Bertao at Los Altos Golf and Country Club. (Golfweek/Tracy Wilcox)
Editor’s note: This story originally ran in the May 23 issue of Golfweek.
These days you can’t walk into a wine store without seeing names familiar to golfers: Ernie Els, David Frost and Arnold Palmer, among others. All have their own labels, and some of the players are deeply invested in their wine businesses.
Golfweek wanted an expert’s opinion of these wines, so we asked Randall Bertao to do a tasting. Bertao has the unique distinction of being a master sommelier and the general manager of Los Altos (Calif.) Golf & Country Club. What follows are his tasting notes.
Luke Donald
2011 LDC Red – Napa Valley, Calif.
A serious wine is driven by the complexity of the grape mixture and 20 months in French oak. Donald likes to call this Claret, an English term for a Bordeaux-style red wine. Dark red and black fruits are wrapped with floral notes of violets and red roses.
2013 Chardonnay – Carneros, Calif.
Ripe yellow pears wrapped by butterscotch and crème brulée highlight this tasty Chardonnay from a cool region of California. Toasty on the finish, this wine still has refreshing acidity to finish long.
Ernie Els
Big Easy 2014 Red – Western Cape, South AfricaBig Easy 2015 Chenin Blanc – Western Cape, South Africa
When I visited South Africa, Chenin Blanc was one of the wines that most impressed me. Outside of the Loire Valley in France, no one really grows much of it, and South Africa has specialized in making it the most widely planted grape in their country. Ernie’s Big Easy Chenin offers a perfect expression of just what the grape has to offer. Very bright red apple fruit (think unoaked chardonnay) with mouth-watering acidity and a clean finish. This is a perfect alternative to lighter chardonnay or sauvignon blanc without the herbal edge.
A lot is going on with this wine—spice and flesh from the syrah, structure from the cab, and various grape contributors. Dark fruited with exotic spices and a savory flavor.
Nick Faldo
2014 Chablis – France
Clean, flinty, with crisp acidity typical of what chardonnay delivers from this small region in Burgundy. Pair it with shellfish or lightly prepared fish and chicken.
2010 Rioja Crianza – Spain
Tempranillo always reminds me of something between merlot and cabernet, with a raisinated quality. This wine speaks of that and more. Firmly structured, with solid fruit and finish.
David Frost
2014 Shiraz – Western Cape, South Africa
Juicy red fruit (think red raspberries and plums) with a good kiss of oak make this charming wine very user-friendly. Medium-bodied, so you can enjoy it on its own or with a variety of food, such as roasted chicken, pork and lamb.
2015 Sauvignon Blanc – Western Cape, South Africa
Like New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc, but think there’s too much grass? If so, you’ll love this wine. It has that zesty, citrusy character and a distinctive herbal edge, though much more subtle. Crisp and lively on the palate, this wine offers the brightness of a New Zealand sauvignon blanc and the elegance of a Sancerre.
Retief Goosen
2012 Shiraz The Goose – Upper Langkloof, South Africa
A good example of what South African shiraz can be. Clocking in at just 13 percent alcohol, this wine proves you don’t have to be overripe to be tasty. Red and dark plums, smooth texture and ripe but not pruney.
2015 Chardonnay The Goose – Western Cape, South Africa
Seductive floral aromas mix with tropical fruit and a soft touch of vanilla. Chardonnay from South Africa is very distinctive – unlike any other country, in my opinion – and that’s what makes them so interesting. Think south coast California mixed with New Zealand’s North Island.
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Back in the ’60s and 70’s golfers could use golf as a deduction for business purposes. Even club memberships were a deduction. If the rumor that golf will be considered a deduction once again, this will be HUGE, as the Donald would say. Tax breaks on golf will definitely give golf in the USA a boost that is really needed! Thanks to Swing by Swing for this breaking story!
Trump, on one of his many rounds of golf, plays year-round!
One of the biggest knocks on golf is that it is simply too expensive. The game can put a serious dent in your checking account, from the cost of equipment to the greens fees for a round of golf.
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If you remember, last year Sports Illustrated featured a poll that asked, “Who was the most overrated golf on Tour?”
The two most popular answers were Rickie Fowler and Ian Poulter. Rickie immediately stepped up to the plate and produced a string of victories throughout the world, including the Players Championship and the Scottish Open, to immediately silence the critics. Ian has had a “fair” year but has not won as much as Rickie, so the verdict is still out on him! This year the two biggest questions are “Will Tiger win again?” and “Who would you want by your side in a bar fight!” It seems Ernie Els fits the second question quite well! Thanks to Golf Step by Step and Sports Illustrated for this fun poll!
Sports Illustrated released their annual Anonymous Player Poll on Tuesday, but there wasn’t much Rickie Fowler-esque motivation to be gleaned from the 150 players’ answers. Last year, Fowler and Ian Poulter were pegged as the leading vote getters as to who were believed to be the most overrated players on Tour.
SI interviewed more than 150 players from the PGA Tour, PGA Tour Champions and LPGA Tour.
Here are some of the most interesting responses.
Will Tiger Woods win another PGA Tour event?
PGA TOUR
Yes 42%
No 27%
Don’t know 31%
Loose Lips: “I’m optimistic, but running out of reasons.”
CHAMPIONS
Yes 72%
No 23%
Don’t know 5%
Loose Lips: “I don’t even know if he’ll play again.”
LPGA
Yes 36%
No 64%
If you were to be in a bar fight, who would you want to have your back?
PGA TOUR
Ernie Els 15%
Keegan Bradley 9%
Ángel Cabrera 7%
Pat Perez 5%
Brooks Koepka 4%
No one out here 18%
Others 42%
Loose Lips: “I’ve heard some bar stories about Ernie.”
